Development News February 2, 2018

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by mi7ch, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. JADES

    JADES Well-Known Member

    Actually if Facebook friends, the tick box still doesn't work (unless recent change) only way it won't pop-up if they have NO Facebook account at all, but it still will "appear and disappear real fast"
     
  2. neill1990

    neill1990 Well-Known Member

    scripts are not just for automation. You can make one that is for rearranging the format to suit a persons wants better then the devs currently have it set up.

    The scripts some use to auto send gifts i dont think is a problem, the only ones i see as a problem are the ones that are auto clicking in pvp events such as AW,BA, regular battles and bounties.

    If i person uses a script to attack his own coop/solo boss i dont find that a problem since it is not afecting anothers game in anyway. Once a script interferes with another that is a problem.

    read the ToU and here are some snippets regarding modification -

    7.NO ENCUMBRANCE OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

    You agree not to encumber, license, modify, publish, copy, sell, transfer, transmit or in any way exploit, any of the content of the Service (including the Site Materials and your own User Content (defined below)), nor will you attempt to do so.

    10.USAGE RULES


    As a user of the Site, you agree that your User Content and Modifications, and your conduct on the Site will not:

    (l)except as may be the result of standard search engine or Internet browser usage, use or launch any automated system, including, without limitation, any spider, robot (or “bot”), scraper or offline reader that accesses the Site or use or launch any unauthorized script;

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    From what i understand in section 7 it is saying no modifications are aloud, of course this is without given permission. With creating a modification of the site background script or not one is claiming that said script is their own and not anybody elses etc. this is leads to section 9 user content -

    You further agree that KANO is free to use any ideas, information, concepts, know-how or techniques contained in any User Content and Modifications you send to the Site or KANO, for any purposes whatsoever, including, without limitation, developing, producing, marketing and otherwise exploiting products and/or services using such User Content and Modifications, and without remuneration of any kind. You further perpetually and irrevocably grant KANO the unconditional right to use and exploit your name, persona and likeness included in or connected to any User Content and Modifications, without any obligations to you. You also grant to KANO the right to sub-license and authorize others to exercise any of the rights granted to KANO under these Terms of Use; and each such third party will be entitled to benefit from the rights and licenses granted to KANO under these Terms of Use.

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    any modification that is done on their site or sent to kano, you revoke your rights to it and grant kano the permission to use/gain from it.

    So with that all said you can use script but without given permission from kano to use said scripts you are breaking the ToU, therefore if they want to ban user for it they are in their rights to do so. So a person could be banned for using a modification kano could still use it and as it is stated morally wrong doesnt apply to the court of law, using the site and modifying it, you are revoking your right to your own content pushed into the game that modifies and changes it in anyway shape or form. If it isnt your own content that you made and you use it on the site... well that is a entirely different legal issue that is not bound by kano to deem punishment but are subject to be banned for still, not having given permission from kano to do so and are subject to legal action of original owner if they so choose. there is more to it if they give you permission or not but still breaks the ToU if they did or not due to only being aloud to use your own made scripts.

    The reason you have to use your own is so that kano could use it in any way shape or form legally, if it is somebody elses then they wouldnt but can ban due to breaking ToU.

    TL;DR - legal stuff and kano can ban for unauthorized usage of modifications/bots/scripts and any scripts used they can gain from in any way shape or form.
     
  3. Killa Queen

    Killa Queen Member

    The gifts are quite worthless any way, so please don't bother.

    What part of we don't want scripts messing up this game do you not comprehend?
     
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  4. GuessX

    GuessX New Member

    Pretty sure ive been straight forward with what the scripts do and havent tried to hide anything.

    Interestingly enough some of the UI tweaks that i released have been asked on here before and your comments on them were, "that you'd pass them onto devs" or that things couldnt be changed..?

    I'm also curious as to why there is no simplier ingame gifting? I'm really wanting to put this out, but surely there has to be a reason it hasnt been done via the right channels?

    The items maybe useless for high levels but gifting has been built into the daily reward system of needing X points to get it marked off for that day.
    yes i found out it was facebooks fault (after spending hours) going though it and then checking kano code, kano code does throw a fault about lack of permissions to the users friend list, but i wasnt about to change permissions to find out if that worked as a fix.
    3rd party scripts have been in various games for years and facebook hasnt blinked yet. They might if the code was malicious (they will know if its malicious or not)
    i put no automation in the little script i released ;)
    ahh i did wonder that, i thought it was because the game is also set to kill the loading of the facebook box if user clicks in the bg as its loading..
    please refer to the above answers.
    i did click the links in mi7ch signature but that just went to a dead link, so i hadnt yet read them.

    Im in agreeance that things like sending gifts should be ok, and that auto clicking shouldnt be allowed. I hadnt thought about autoclicking bosses (mainly because they are just a few clicks for me kill at the moment) but id put that in the same boat as automation.

    the first rule of coding is never to give them the code first for free as you risk the later.

    interestingly i was banned years ago from another kano game (99% sure it was kano) for scripts, so im aware of the risk
     
  5. Killa Queen

    Killa Queen Member

    Well, hopefully, it won't be too long before you're banned again ;)
     
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  6. GuessX

    GuessX New Member

    judging from the parts of the TOU, if they said the script was fine, then there should be no issues. (not that they have)

    its nice to see your following, because you may of missed the part where i only released some UI changes and said il do something for in game gifting.

    if i was a long time spending player and nothing ever got changed for the better, i could protest that i was going to stop spending money and stop playing aswell, i could even organize boycotts because of it, imo your argument is invalid.

    im also surprised your not on here with other script writers also releasing full automated scripts for the game, they are been as vocal as me (besides not being on this forum that im aware of) and i dont see any posts about them. I felt ive done the right thing and not released anything automated.
    whats interesting to me is, if i get banned and make another account that no one knows about, it wont get banned because no one will know if im using anything
     
  7. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    PC and VC crafting is important, and once someone starts messing around, all games will be affected and anyone not willing to click, like many xmafia players were use to, is just gonna destroy the games, I for one, have played for many years, in fact in two of them since 2010
     
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  8. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member


    we have told you use Kanoplay when doing gifts , it takes no time, unless you don't know how to use kanoplay or what it is, but you should and don't think people won't notice or that Kano has not noticed you,, your arrogance knows no bounds ....
     
  9. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    This has certainly been an illuminating discussion. We always try to err on the side of giving people the benefit of the doubt, but we will not permit open talk of promoting script usage (regardless of what it does) and breaking the Terms of Use on the forums.
     
  10. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    I have played a game, way before Kano, that had things added to it from outside the company, a small thing here, a small thing there, till the game, became a hacked piece of crap, a game so many of my friends loved, it eventually started glitching and freezing, and we still played until the company had no choice to shut it down, and No I did not partake of any of the automation, but it was used against me and others, so no leave the game alone, let the owners and devs do what they have been doing controlling best they can anyone who goes outside the boundaries of the TOS
     
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  11. SOHAIB

    SOHAIB New Member

    He already released the script which he calls UI enhancements. :mad: @mi7ch

    The Kano Devs will know where to look for it so i am not going to post the link here
     
  12. Kirsten

    Kirsten Well-Known Member

    so send it in a private message to Mitch, :)
     
  13. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    I appreciate the warnings, folks, but I did say we were already aware of this person and their script. :)
     
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  14. neill1990

    neill1990 Well-Known Member

    why would you ban him when he is clearly not doing anything wrong seeing as mi7ch has stated they know about his scripts. read my post about the ToU snippets. Since kano does acknowledge and know about the scripts he uses and is deeming them fine, that means indirectly giving the OK for them in game hense not doing anything wrong.

    Also as he stated none are for automation purposes. Automation from what we have seen in the past is a no from kano. Simply creating a script for the game does break the ToU but ONLY if kano states that said user script is allowed, they have given indirect permission meaning its fine...
     
  15. neill1990

    neill1990 Well-Known Member

    depending on the game gifts can be useful or not. In VC and PC gifting is an essential part to becoming stronger, this is due to gifts being a core part of the crafting system. If a player does not craft at higher lvls they will be left behind compared to those who do.
     
  16. Justin the killer

    Justin the killer Active Member

    im gonna go ahead an speak up about this an im gonna make it short: A Player using a Script will always be a Cheater within all Game Apps...an should be on a permant ban from all game apps..have a great day!
     
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  17. Justin the killer

    Justin the killer Active Member

    you know damn well know it if 1 does it they all will do it eventually, an you know where that Leads!! hackers an the script users will take over..like they did on Hi5!! just saying..
     
  18. neill1990

    neill1990 Well-Known Member

    read over my ToU post to gain a better understanding on where kano stands on this situation... If kano authorizes the usage it is okay, but since most scripts people make are automation they ban the player when they find them. in this instance the guy is not in the wrong due to what i stated above in post #54
     
  19. mi7ch

    mi7ch Administrator

    That's not what I mean. Knowing about something and permitting it are two different concepts.

    I also said this on page 2 of this thread:

    "Our stance on using scripts in the game has not changed and if you choose to install someone else's program on your computer then there are inherent risks with doing so."
     
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  20. Justin the killer

    Justin the killer Active Member

    dont matter if it is not an automation it is still a script!! an u know how players get with those...they will use it in a abusive way..i hope kano knows that is unfair for others...
     
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