Thanks Jades, that's where the math kicks in. Anyhow, I don't want to hijack this thread. Lucifer alleged that a sniping program had been used against his guild in the most recent GW on the Kong/AG server and I just want to state whether or not a sniping program had been used is irrelevant in the instances he mentions - because no one was sniping - the odds were against his guild suiciding or having anyone else kill his guild, but ours. If Lucifer feels like discussing this latest GW then he can open another thread and make his comments there, but allegations that his guild didn't win because Kano has been Compromised (subject of this thread) does not inform or add anything of value to the discussions in this thread. Back on topic, it'd be great for me to be able to deny that anyone in our guild, or anyone else for that matter, cheats, but, of course, I can't because I'm not able to actually see how people play the game - by the same token, in instances when "strange" things happen, I'm unable to allege that people are cheating, because I'm still not privy to how people actually play. It'd be great if people didn't take losing, missing a kill etc as proof of cheating - at the same time, it'd be great if Kano made these game platforms secure so that we could all play the game without "feeling" that others are cheats.