Blacksmith - Under Giant recipe ONLY

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by SkylerF, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    This thread is ONLY for theories and trials of the Under Giant recipe. I contributed something similar with the Aegir Trident.

    I have heard the Under Giant uses 3 different items: 2 gifts and 1 non-gift.
    I have heard theories that it uses Frost Giant and/or Elder Frost Giant.

    So I went and tested Frost Giant with some of my gifts, starting with Frost Giant + Thor Amulet:
    Viking Dagger (Viking Dagger used in another recipe)
    (missing Mead Horn)
    Viking Tunic
    (Thor Amulet)
    (missing Longbow)
    Viking Axes
    Leather Helm
    Poison Arrows
    Battle Chainmail
    (missing Trained Hawk)
    Rabbit Shield
    (missing Wooden Rabbit Amulet)
    (missing Leather Armbands)
    (Skull Dagger used in another recipe)
    Skull Tunic
    (missing Zombie Scorpion)
    War Boots
    Silver Armband
    War Belt
    Kite Shield
    Wolf Skin Cloak
    Gold Necklace
    Freyja's Tears
    Byggvir Ale
    (missing Drakkar Figurehead)
    Viking War Helm
    War Dog
    Vanir Statue
    Golden Apple of Youth
    Battle Swine
    Torch
    Silver Ornament
    North Star Charm
    (Iwaz Rune is used in a different recipe)
    Northern Knot Charm
    Sacred Well
    Lump of Coal
    Nordic Crossle Pendant
    Scroll of Vanir Knowledge
    Advent Wreath
    Blessed Oil
    Hiking Boots
    Pack Horse
    Odin's Mask

    The above items FAILED to make anything with Frost Giant and Thor Amulet. Also, I am missing some gifts...not sure why. Maybe I just overlooked them. I believe I have gone through ALL currently gift-able items, either ruling them out or stating that I lacked them
    There are other items that used to be gift-able (like Bonfire, which I tested) but are no longer available.
    And, to the best of my knowledge, no recipe in either Viking or Pirate Clan uses an ingredient that another recipe used. Yes, a recipe might use the RESULT of another, but they don't have the same ingredients.

    I have also tested:
    Frost Giant + Freyja's Tears + Hiking Boots
    Frost Giant + Northern Knot Charm + Freyja's Tears
    Frost Giant + Odin's Mask + Freyja's Tears
    Frost Giant + Freyja's Tears + Blessed Oil

    Could the Under Giant use a Blacksmith Warrior? Like "Land's End Sentinel"? That's the only one possible...

    Anyone have hints or failed combinations? Please list them!
  2. i was thinking that sentinel as well.its the only thing i dont have yet
  3. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    Urgh. I am NOT going through that list again for the Sentinel.
    :eek:
    One round was enough.

    Any theories about the gifts? I thought the Odin's Mask + Freyja's Tears sounded neat...I hadn't tried the Sentinel with that, though...:(
  4. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    More Guesswork

    I just realized something! If only one item is a gift, then that item HAS to come from Niflheim.
    Gifts are unlocked at all levels, correct?
    Also, the level/location requirement for a recipe applies to at least one item, the one acquired last. In this case, that is the non-gift item.
    Level 420...does anyone know what adventure is unlocked at that level? Niflheim opens at level 360, while Jotunheim opens at level 500. So one of the middle adventures from Niflheim. Or what can you buy at level 420?

    Niflheims drops are:
    ADVENTURE - Blood Decoy, Venom Dart, Frost Giant, Ice Dwarf, Yggdrasil Timber, Yggdrasil Ship
    BOSS - Yeti Ice Helm, Ice Shard Catapult, Yeti Ice Mace, Yeti Ice Sword
    CHALLENGE - (I don't know, but one of them is Sword of Ice and I heard the Elder Frost Giant drops as well)

    If you keep thinking about it, you realize that it CANNOT be a boss drop, as the boss opens at level 360 and we need level 420. It also can't be the Blood Decoy, as that is also level 360.
    The guess is that the non-gift is a Warrior (are there any Warrior gifts?) because the result is a Warrior, so there must be a Warrior in there somewhere. So it looks like we'll be using either the Frost Giant, Ice Dwarf, or Elder Frost Giant.
    Someone suggested the Land's End Sentinel, but that's unlocked at level 150.

    Are you following this argument? Or am I totally nuts?
  5. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    FOR THE LAST FREAKING TIME, THE UNDER GIANT DOES NOT USE AUTUMN'S HAMMER!

    The Hammer unlocks at level 2500.
    Under Giant unlocks at level 420. It can be made at level 420. Autumn's Hammer CANNOT!
  6. Das liebe Beil

    Das liebe Beil Active Member

    Level 420 unlocks the "Visit the Village of Mist 30 times". This unlocks the Odins Rune Challenge. Therefore it is logical to assume that the Elder Frost Giant is used in the Recipe.

    Frost Giants, Ice Dwarfs, Poison Darts, Magic Timber and Yggdrasil Ship are out of the question for recipes. Blood Decoys are unlikely in my eyes.

    I got the following fails from a smaller player whom I bribed into testing it out with the Hellfire Chariot Recipe.

    Elder Frost Giant + Undersea War Helm + Undersea Shield
    EFG + Undersea War Helm
    EFG + Undersea Shield

    Maybe one can use Yeti Drops for creating the Undergiant.
  7. dnaleves

    dnaleves New Member

    I don't think it uses the elder giant because the elder frost giant has a higher attack rating than the under giant. the elder frosy giant is 27A/27D, and the under giant is 25A/28D. It wouldn't make sense to use the blacksmith to make an inferior item.
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2011
  8. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    But it boosts the defense...Yeah, I'm not convinced.
    Anyways, I heard that the Under Giant is a non-gift and two different gifts (total quantity unknown).
  9. Ruby Rann

    Ruby Rann New Member

    At 420, you get the Frost Giant. At 440, you get the Ice Dwarf. Hope that helps.
  10. Ruby Rann

    Ruby Rann New Member

    The warrior Vidar Berserker becomes available to buy at 480, but I guess that's too late, huh?
  11. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    But that helps quite a bit!
    We know that the Vidar Berserker and any warrior after that won't be used!
  12. dnaleves

    dnaleves New Member

    I'm currently level 493 and the most recent gifts that had been made available for me to give are odin mask, pack mule, and hiking boots. So where these Nilfheim gifts or january gifts?
  13. dnaleves

    dnaleves New Member

    and the blessed oil. i believe i just got that while in the 400s as well.
  14. dnaleves

    dnaleves New Member

    frost giant, odin mask, pack horse
    frost giant, odin mask, hiking boots
    frost giant, odin mask, blessed oil
    frost giant, blessed oil, pack horse
    frost giant, blessed oil, hiking boots
    frost giant, pack horse, hiking boots

    all above failed
  15. seth the chef

    seth the chef New Member

    Here is a list of all my failed attempts. They're already in another thread but I figured it would be easier to reference if I transferred them here.

    didnt work
    frost giant, underworld ring
    frost giant, ice blade ice shield
    frost giant, battle swine, blood decoy
    frost giant, yeti ice helm, yeti ice sword
    frost giant, yeti ice helm, yeti ice mace
    frost giant yeti ice mace, yeti ice sword
    frost giant, yeti ice mace, yeti ice helm, yeti ice sword
    frost giant, forged helm
    frost giant, undersea helm, undersea shield
    frost giant, rock giant hammer

    frost giant, ice sword, ice shield
    frost giant, northern knot charm
    frost giant, lands end sentinel
    frost giant, lands end sentinel, northern knot charm
    frost giant, lands end sentinel, battle etin
    frost giant, battle etin
    frost giant, battle etin, northern knot charm
    frost giant, elder frost giant
    frost giant, elder frost giant, northern knot charm
    elder frost giant, northern knot charm
    elder frost giant yeti ice mace
    elder frost giant, undersea helm
    elder frost giant, svalinn sun shield

    frost giant kite shield
    elder frost giant, frost giant kite shield
    elder frost giant kite shield
    frost giant, elder frost giant, undersea helm
    frost giant, elder frost giant, undersea shield
    elder frost giant, undersea helm, undersea shield
    elder frost giant, frost giant, undersea helm, undersea shield
  16. seth the chef

    seth the chef New Member

    tonight's failures

    frost giant, thors amulet, drakkar figurehead
    frost giant, thors amulet, mead horn
    frost giant, thors amulet,training sword
    frost giant, drakkar figurehead, odins mask
    elder frost giant, frost giant, drakkar figurehead
    elder frost giant, drakkar figurehead, odins mask
    ice dart, frost giant lands end sentinel
    scroll of vanir knowledge,odins mask,lands end sentinel
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, mead horn
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, blessed oil
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet,aesir statue(comes from secret gift)
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, celtic gorget
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, north star charm
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, lump of coal
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, northern knot charm
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, mini melee axe
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, fishing spears
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, training sword
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, odins mask
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, battle swine
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, silver ornament
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, war boots
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, chainmail armor
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, advent wreath
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, viking costume
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, drakkar figurehead
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, hiking boots
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, kite sheild
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, pack horse
    lands end sentinel, thors amulet, golden apple of youth
  17. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    It cannot be the Land's End Sentinel. I proved why in an earlier post.
    And then two other players disproved MORE items; one said the Frost Giant will be used, the other that it is actually the ELDER Frost Giant.
  18. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    ATTEMPTS: Frost Giant with 2 gifts

    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Viking Dagger
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Mead Horn
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Viking Tunic
    (Thor Amulet is already used)
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Longbow
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Viking Axes
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Leather Helm
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Poison Arrows
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Battle Chainmail
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Trained Hawk
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Rabbit Shield
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Wooden Rabbit Amulet
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Leather Armbands
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Skull Dagger
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Skull Tunic
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Zombie Scorpion
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + War Boots
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Silver Armband
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + War Belt
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Kite Shield
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Wolf Skin Cloak
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Gold Necklace
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Freyja's Tears
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Byggvir Ale
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Drakkar Figurehead
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Viking War Helm
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + War Dog
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Vanir Statue
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Golden Apple of Youth
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Battle Swine
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Torch
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Silver Ornament
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + North Star Charm
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Iwaz Rune
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Northern Knot Charm
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Sacred Well
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Lump of Coal
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Nordic Crossle Pendant
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Scroll of Vanir Knowledge
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Advent Wreath
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Blessed Oil
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Hiking Boots
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Pack Horse
    Frost Giant + Thor Amulet + Odin's Mask
    It looks like the Under Giant does not use the Frost Giant AND the Thor Amulet.


    Frost Giant + Odin's Mask + Pack Horse
    Frost Giant + Odin's Mask + Hiking Boots
    Frost Giant + Odin's Mask + Blessed Oil
    Frost Giant + Blessed Oil + Pack Horse
    Frost Giant + Blessed Oil + Hiking Boots
    Frost Giant + Pack Horse + Hiking Boots
    Frost Giant + Drakkar Figurehead + Odin's Mask

    What would really help is for someone to take the Frost Giant (or Elder Frost Giant) and systematically go through the gifts. Like I did for the Thor Amulet, you pick a gift and test all the other gifts. I know it takes awhile, but it's highly useful!
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2011
  19. DarkStratus

    DarkStratus Administrator

    Hint for the Undergiant

    The Undergiant requires two unique item types to create.
  20. SkylerF

    SkylerF New Member

    Huh. I was told 3 and one was a gift.
    How irritatingly vague...

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